I-405 HOV Lane I-10 to US-101 (NB)

AdvanceNotice: I-405 HOV Lane I-10 to US-101 (NB)

$950,000,000


Project Type:	AdvanceNotice
Project Owner:	California Department of Transportation
Location:	California, United States, Los Angeles (CA)
Estimated Value:	$950,000,000
Estimated Jobs:	N/A - Congressional Budget Office As compared with 10355 - White House Council of Economic Advisors
Category:	Construction - Roadways
Market Sector:	State/Municipal
Bid Number:	07-120304
Publication Date:	05/08/2009
Contact Information:	Plans Counter Phone: 1-916-654-4490 Fax: 1-916-654-7028 Address: 1220 N. St., MS #26,Room 0200, Transportation Building, Sacramento, CA, 95814
Description:	FEDERAL ECONOMIC RECOVERY SPENDING. Project No.: 07-120304. State or Local (S/L): S. District: 07. County: Los Angeles. Route: 405. City: Project name: I-405 HOV Lane I-10 to US-101 (NB). Project description: Widen NB I-405 for HOV Lane. Project purpose: Add standard NB HOV lane and standardize SB lanes. Estimated total cost ($): $950,000,000. Obligated Funds ($): $189,900,000.

Vote on this Project

Here is what 276 people think:

22.8% - Worthwhile (63 Votes)

11 - Energy Efficiency
12 - Environmental
22 - Long-Term Value
18 - Short-Term Value

77.2% - Unnecessary (213 Votes)

58 - Fraud/Abuse
50 - Not Competitive
105 - Too Costly

Comments (41)

Add New Comment

Ladd Wikstrom

Nov-13-2009 09:49:02 AM

I-405 for CA? I think NOT!! The I-405 in Bellevue, Washington State needs it more than the voracious LA county in CA. With the stacks of freeways ten high that have not changed any of their poor driving habits in 80 years, what is another $950,000,000.00 going to do, to change any of their greedy freeway living? I vote NO.

truthislibert@yahoo.com

Nov-20-2009 03:18:41 PM

Reply to Ladd Wikstrom : This is ALL a HUGE joke! The gov't has wasted peoples money for years and now Obama is capitilizing on peoples foolishness. Who is he to redistribute a penny. He isn't God, he can't change a heart. There is NO transparency with this man and his adminstration. If isn't clear its murky. Yes THEY are throwing money away and they keep lieing about their failures.

truthisliberty

Nov-20-2009 03:19:59 PM

Matthew

Oct-09-2009 03:46:46 PM

This $950 million would be much better spent on passenger rail infrastructure, such as the underpasses that will be built as part of the CA High-Speed Rail project. We love our cars, but adding capacity to a highway only increases demand and consequently makes the highway is congested again. Competitive passenger rail service would be a smarter option as it would reduce congestion on the highways and provide a more sustainable mode of travel.

Francis Breidenbach

Jul-21-2009 10:30:46 PM

Also wanted to add: Rather than spend so much money to add a lane that won't decrease congestion too much (considering most resident's inability to understand that you should not drive slow in these carpool lanes, it defeats both the purpose and my desire to not tail-gate you). Why not use the money to put a light rail from Howard Hughes to the 101??? It would alleviate more fwy traffic than any other proposal AND take cars off the road.

Gerry o.

Sep-16-2009 07:45:43 AM

Reply to Francis Breidenbach : Thank you for the comment. We should be spending money an alternative transportation. light rail, high-speed rail and gas powered busses instead of adding more lanes to present outdated and expensive to maintain freeways.

Francis Breidenbach

Jul-21-2009 10:26:50 PM

Considering the current construction involving the widening of the section south of the 10, this is going to take FOREVER to add another lane in that stretch. Also, why is this project listed twice at 2 prices? Also, if theyre not adding a lane, and just repainting lines ... why would it cost so much?

Paul Chavez

Jul-14-2009 05:25:11 PM

Just to clarify, the stimulus package contribution is $189.9 (m) million. The overall cost of the project is about $1 billion. I was just on the Sunset Blvd. overpass above the 405 today, I saw a surveying tripod out there, but no signs of construction. Project is still in the preliminary stage and isn't expected to be completed until 2013.

Dawn Cline

Jul-09-2009 08:44:03 AM

If you wait about a couple months, no one will be left in California. Instead HOV lanes will be needed for those exiting California to solvent states. Please settle north of the Red River.

Bill

Jun-25-2009 01:58:08 PM

Why not give the 950 million dollars to 950 welfare recipients under the stipulation that they must buy a new car from GM or Chrysler and pay cash and buy a new house and pay cash. This way there are 950 people off welfare, helping with the GM/Chrysler recovery and helping the housing market all at the same time.,

Jonathan Adler

Jul-09-2009 08:01:25 AM

Reply to Bill : Re Bill: because these useless non-ambitious uneducated fools that are already taking our hard earned tax payer dollars certainly don't deserve ANY more money, help, and especially do not deserve a car.

Dennis

Jul-21-2009 06:38:10 AM

Reply to Bill : Why not give the 950 million dollars to 950 Federal workers who are 55 yrs of age and ready to retire, under the stipulation that they retire, buy a new USA made car, payoff their mortgage, thus creating 950 million new Federal Job openings, 950 million homes would be paid off-helping bank foreclosures, and people can go back to working on making a great USA made car/product.

Tim

Aug-04-2009 09:31:06 AM

Reply to Jonathan Adler : Here in Massachussetts welfare recipients get a free car with all associated registry fees paid for as well as maintenance, insurance and a AAA membership to boot.

Amy

Jun-18-2009 08:33:45 AM

Please!!!! We have an HOV lane in Denver that no one uses. The HOV lanes will have only a couple of cars on it while the regualar lanes will be jam-packed. What a waste of money.

Paul

Sep-23-2009 11:04:31 AM

Reply to Amy : Los Angeles is not Denver, you idiot. Are you even aware of the fact that L.A. has some of the worst traffic in the U.S.? This HOV lanes will get used, in fact they'll get pummeled, either by carpoolers, buses or hybrids.

Javier Leon

Nov-19-2009 10:37:48 AM

Reply to Paul : While your point is valid, why did you feel the need to insult her? Seems to me you're the idiot

Michael Sarabia

Jun-10-2009 06:03:25 PM

The idea was good, a few years ago, but our leaders seem unable (there may be other reasons too) to shift gears and accept that traffic will decline because a) we must stop Carbon Emissions, B) the original congestion projections are now invalid, 3) Even after the Recession ends, long distance commuting must end, either the cost of oil is too high or the Carbon Emissions are unacceptable.

Dave

Oct-03-2009 12:48:59 PM

Reply to Michael Sarabia : You are emitting too much cabon, I hope the government puts a stop to that too.

Isaac

Jun-08-2009 08:33:36 AM

Have any of you ever been on the 405 between the 10 and 101? If you have, you would think, thank god. This is a good investment. It goes towards something tangible. It will reduce congestion which creates inefficiency. Now what they really need to do, is build a train along the 405. This is way better spending then paying off derivatives and the like which have no tangible value.

geo

Jun-04-2009 09:41:47 AM

"Build it and they will come!"

Bob

Jun-03-2009 11:50:15 AM

Not sure what the costs include but transportation is essential for an economy to function. How many hours do people waste in traffic? Time=Money.

christy b

May-29-2009 03:51:14 PM

This money would be better used if applied to the development of a public transportation system that WORKS, is expansive and accessible by many. Lets put money into long term solutions not ones that might help for the next 5 minutes.

Parker

May-29-2009 02:47:33 PM

Los Angeles is so close to having its "Subway to the Sea" financed and constructed along Wilshire Blvd, which would completely revitalize the city. A billion dollars would go SO FAR to help this. Wow there is some serious corruption going on here. Instead, a lane divider for the people living in the valley coming home from work? Wow. To Johnny and Oh, its roughly a Billion dollars.

Kevin jennings

May-29-2009 09:40:22 AM

Maybe we need to think how this works out. The 950 million will be spent on Steel, concrete machinery and wages. The wages will be spent on food, rent autos etc. The result is that 950 million will create 12 time the impact over the next 3 years. What we get is an HOV lane that will encourage mor epeople to Car or Van pool, and maybe just maybe we save the planet from global warming

Mike

Jun-01-2009 10:39:21 PM

Reply to Kevin jennings : I think my wife has tried that logic on me before...just think of how much I saved! I reply, LOOK AT HOW MUCH YOU SPENT! More worthless investment to encourage short term behavior. If you want to save the planet, save money and encourage alternative solutions. 1 Billion spent in a tiny section of roadway is another waste of tax payer dollars.

Nate

Jun-03-2009 12:49:05 PM

Reply to Kevin jennings : I live in the San Francisco bay area and I can attest that almost nobody uses the HOV lane. California recently repealed the exception to the 2 person rule for hybrids, so even fewer people use the HOV lane then previously. Spending almost a billion dollars on is unbelieveble. Better they spend it on light rail, or not in California at all.

old dave

Jun-10-2009 12:25:11 PM

Reply to Kevin jennings : What global warming? Its called climate change now. Either way, its just a way to take from the not-so-rich and give to the government who says theyll give it to the poor. get with it!!!

Dave

Oct-03-2009 12:58:19 PM

Reply to Kevin jennings : I work for a government base where the government will pay for your commute fee's if you use the train or carpool, the bad news is, almost every car that leaves the base has one person in it. so biuld it if you want, but they won't come. and if you haven't noticed gobel warming is a political scheme do some research yourself and stop listening to al gore

Tony

May-28-2009 05:55:47 PM

I do not mind a new HOV lane, but really?! A quarter of the state's recovery money spent on just this one project?!

Patrick

Jul-06-2009 02:56:24 AM

Reply to Tony : The front page shows close to 7 billion for california at this time. Naturally, they've been adding projects and changing totals I'm sure.

ken

May-26-2009 01:46:22 PM

California.......Stop spending your money of inane projects like saving mice and minnows and just maybe you could afford to pay for some important projects. without the rest of the country bailing you out.

Art W

May-21-2009 02:43:49 PM

Damn...950 Million for an HOV lane and traffic will still be slow in LA

Johnny

May-28-2009 01:34:30 PM

Reply to Art W : Lets just call this one a trillion!! I dont mind spending money to build roads but a trillion for an HOV lane? Wouldnt surprise me to learn that you have to have a company owned by an illegal alien to bid on the job.

May-28-2009 08:46:06 PM

Reply to Johnny : Johnny, million not trillon

Jen

May-29-2009 04:58:29 PM

Reply to OH : @ OH and Johnny: Neither million nor trillion, but very close to a billion, actually. :-)

Cuong

May-30-2009 11:36:47 AM

Reply to Jen : Thanks Jen for your clarifications. Why do they build a light rail along Fwy 405 instead? Reduce traffic, save environment, and maybe save some money for car commuters.

Brad

May-31-2009 10:22:52 AM

Reply to OH : OH.... wouldnt 950 MILLION round to 1 Billion, not one million? This is all so confusing... Before Obamamania, most people would have thought that a Billion was a lot, now we think that thousand billion is not much. Total wealth in this country --- TOTAL WEALTH -- is about 50 trillion. we owe about 102 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Obama is adding to that like money is free. The result will be that your dollars will be close to worthless soon...

Will

Jun-01-2009 03:31:40 PM

Reply to Cuong : Forget the HOV lane. People need to learn to DRIVE RIGHT. If youre not passing someone, stay in the right lane. I dont care if you have 10 lanes, all it takes is 10 self absorbed jerks to slow everyone behind them down. They need to start ticketing people who drive slow in the fast lane. Revenue that helps traffic. Genius.

Old Dave

Jun-10-2009 12:21:20 PM

Reply to Will : Have you actually driven in LA? The 405 on the westside hasn`t moved in 20 years.

Dave

Oct-03-2009 01:13:57 PM

Reply to Johnny : Yes! one trillion will be spent on a road, that was designed and decided on building, one year ago for much less, but since this is bailout money, there is no accountabilty for what is spent, so most of the money is going to some politician. Think about this look at who gets the money. the people of this country are nobodys to all politians. do you really think that the health care programe is for the people. not obamas plan.

Gray

Nov-17-2009 08:57:10 AM

Reply to Dave : Stop the spending and lower taxes. Nothing says congress has to spend money over and above what we can pay back. Corruption within the ranks of congress is so obvious that any one can see what they are doing. It is time to vote out ALL Incumbents in 2010 or face more of this large government big brother syndrome. Stand up and be counted or sit down and take what you are given. They work for us, we do not work for them.

Non-Recovery Funded Projects in California

Field Services for Various Project at the Broadway, Glenarm, and Azusa Power Plants
Location :	Pasadena, California
Industry :	Power Generation, Utilities, Cogeneration Plant, Transmission

Sewer Trunk Line Repair
Location :	Long Beach, California
Industry :	CCTV Commodities and Services, Demolition, Salvage, and Excavation, Inspection Services, Laboratory Services - Analytical, Construction - Railroad, Rapid Transit, Construction Inspection, Construction - Water Supply, Sewer, Well Drilling, Treatment, Distribution and Disposal

IronPort Hardware and Software Maintenance/support
Location :	Los Angeles, California
Industry :	IT - Computer Software, IT - Computer and Network Repair

Learning Assistance Center / Library Renovation (Library Swing Space Lease Component)
Location :	Los Angeles, California
Industry :	Construction - Educational Buildings, Prefabricated Structures and Scaffolding

953351 - Minivans - Sto-N-Go Rental - QUICK BID
Location :	Santa Fe Springs, California
Industry :	Vehicles - Truck Leasing, Purchasing and Rental, Vehicles - Light Trucks and Vans

City Hall Campus Power Generator System Installation
Location :	Rancho Palos Verdes, California
Industry :	Power Generation, Utilities, Cogeneration Plant, Transmission